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the guidance for q-4, so you have to be defensive over the next four weeks. >> everybody talks about the most hated rally. i know i coined that. while money has been coming out of stock mutual funds, there has been money going into etfs and high-yield bond funds. they're not really bond funds. in times of volatility, they act like stock funds. people are seeking alternatives in stock-like instruments. >> bob makes a great point about high yield. we have seen a virtual stampede into high yield. investors have to sell their soul to get 3% today. all is not well on the anniversary of this bull market high. >> let's face it, guys, historically speaking those are hardly high yields we're talking about. >> lowest yields in history. >> yes, they are. okay. thank you. talk to you later. 53 minutes left in the trading session. the dow hovering near the lows of the session, down 85 points. >> stick around. we have a lot more to come on this busy tuesday edition of the "closing bell." >>> coming up, payback? the president keeps painting wall street as the villain. >> bernie madoff, ken lay. criminals, g
's trading a cheap multiple. has a great dividend yield. 3m on the other hand is more defensive. probably a little less upside. we think that stock is worth about $100. again, a great dividend yield. very well diversified company. no one division accounts for more than 10% of their sales. >> all right. thank you, both. interesting discussion. talk to you soon. >> thank you. see you soon. >> thank you. >> you're right. a lot of tourists go to tiffany's to buy their souvenirs. that's an expensive souvenir. myself, i'd go to 8th avenue and buy a t-shirt. >> i love new york. >> exactly. we got 40 minutes left in the trading day. it is a squeaker. will we be positive for the first time this week? right now the dow is virtually unchanged. >> so washington may not get it, but the authors of the simpson-bowles tax plan say the american people do get it. >> for generations we've asked our politicians to bring home the bacon. well, the pig is dead. >> we're going get reaction to that incredible exclusive interview coming up. >> that was great. i hope you got to see that today with steve liesman. >>
with the expert-driven economy, construction economy, companies such as 3m. a little more defensive there. >> lee, if, in fact, we're talking about slowdown in production but a rise in consumption in china, why would you buy caterpillar right now? >> well, first of all, i think we have to remember you look at a yum brand that has 40, 45% of their earnings coming from china. caterpillar has a very low amount of earnings directly from china. everybody on the street agrees that caterpillar moves with our expectation of how good china will grow. but caterpillar is just starting that growth stage versus yum. it already has so much riding on the chinese economy. the other guest, i hear you. if you think that deceleration is not going to be a problem, that's fine. i would rather go with a company that has a game to win versus a game to lose. yum is extremely dependent. that company structure is dependent on china working out. i wouldn't necessarily disagree or agree with having that stock. but caterpillar has much less of their actual earnings coming from that middle kingdom. so if we have a hard landin
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